When the question of why a man would become an OB/GYN came up recently, I was asked to write a post about it. I’m qualified to try to answer it because I’m not only curious about it myself, but I’m also married to one—a man who happens to be an OB/GYN, that is. After I was sent an e-mail posing the question, I pondered it a bit, and then, I turned to my husband to get his reaction. Immediately, he felt it was a sexist question to ask. It is probably as relevant today to wonder about such a thing as it would be to ask why women would become race car drivers. I leave it to someone else, though, to go up to Danica Patrick and get her thoughts on that matter. As for the subject of male OB/GYNs, I can see his point, but I can also see it from the perspective of the women who wonder about it. I grew up with a male doctor as my primary care physician. When I was a teenager and still growing into my body, I remember feeling a bit uncomfortable during my first pap exam while this man, who I trusted completely, rooted around in my nether regions. Really, though, what woman isn’t uncomfortable with a metal speculum pushed up inside her while she silently wonders what the doctor behind the sheet is looking at “down there”? But, I digress.
To know why a man would become an OB/GYN, I should probably start with my husband and his career. Every doctor has a reason for pursuing his/her chosen field, and those reasons vary widely. I can only speak on what I know of my husband, but I think many other OB/GYNs, whether male or female, can relate to at least one of his experiences. I have known him for over twelve years, and we have been married for seven of those twelve. We met in undergrad, and I remember that he thought about becoming a family doctor or a general practitioner. However, when he started rotating through the various departments in medical school, he discovered that he enjoyed both obstetrics and surgery. He got excited at the wonder and joy of birth, but he also liked the complexity and challenges of every surgery during which he assisted. Then, he found out that a residency in obstetrics and gynecology would only take four more years of training, and the field itself had the added bonus of being part general practice and part surgery. He applied for six different residency programs in three states and was matched with his second choice. When he finished his residency, he not only had a thorough knowledge of the field, but he also came out of it with a large group of friends and colleagues on whom he could rely later, most of whom are female, I might add.
Besides being the best of both worlds for my husband, obstetrics and gynecology has many other positive aspects. For one, he spends more of his time dealing with patients at the beginning of their lives than with those who are nearing the end. What is more joyous than watching a beautiful baby come into this world? That’s probably why such television programs as “A Baby Story” on TLC are so popular. Also, he enjoys being given a challenge or a good problem to solve. He doesn’t get bored with treating the same illnesses day after day. Instead, every surgery, every delivery, and every infection keeps him on his toes depending on its complications and complexities, and no two days at work are the same for him. He is also very active at work and spends little time sitting around waiting for something to happen, except on those days when a particular patient’s labor or delivery is taking more time than expected. Probably the best and most important part of his job is he gets to save lives when he performs surgeries, monitors fetal development, prescribes medications, or decides the best course of action for a particular medical situation.
There is a question within the question I’m trying to answer, though. Most women probably want to know if all the exposure to vaginas and breasts is distracting or a turn on, especially if the OB/GYN is straight and/or married. Hopefully, if the OB/GYN is a professional—and in my experience, most of them are—then, it is all just part of the job. I think most physicians, no matter what their field, believe in the idea that if you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, whether they are hearts, livers, or vaginas. Also, one of their main job requirements is to diagnose medical problems. Honestly, does it sound sexy to have to look at and touch body parts covered in sores, warts, abscesses, or something else equally or more disgusting every single day? There is always an exception to every rule, but any doctor going into a field because he/she has some sort of perverted fetish related to it probably wouldn’t last very long due to malpractice and/or the possible impending sexual harassment lawsuits. My husband spent twelve years in undergrad, medical school, and residency. During that time, he learned to become a professional and objective clinician. In order to be a successful doctor, he must look at everything from a purely clinical and scientific viewpoint. Physicians learn to become desensitized to such things from the very beginning, when they spend their time in anatomy classes recognizing body organs and tissue in dissected human corpses. I don’t think there is anything sexy about that. For those women who wonder about being married to an OB/GYN: I can say that it is probably like being married to an engineer or an artist or a computer technician or a man employed in any other profession. My husband’s professional and personal lives are completely separate, the exception being when I was pregnant. Even then, he made certain my own OB/GYN took care of me, while he watched from the side lines as the expectant father. He did do the very first ultrasound in which we saw our baby’s heartbeat at only five weeks of development. It was one of the most poignant and wonderful experiences of my life and one of the true advantages of being married to him.
When it’s really important, though, does a doctor’s gender really matter, as long as he/she is competent and proactive when it comes to a patient’s healthcare? Will it really make a difference when a woman is in her 36th hour of painful labor and really just wants that baby out? Or, when the baby’s heartbeat suddenly drops and a C-section is the only recourse? Should it really matter? Besides, the question is almost becoming a moot point because there are now many more females going into the field than there are males. We witnessed this firsthand, both during my husband’s residency and also within his current practice, where the ratio of female physicians to male physicians is exactly equal, or 4 to 3, if you count the nurse practitioner. So, the next time you see your doctor, you might think about asking him/her why he/she decided to go into obstetrics and gynecology. The answer just might surprise you.
If you have any other questions you'd like me to answer, remember to leave them in the comments section of this post, tweet me at twitter.com (@asktheobswife), or email them to me at
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 247 of 247THIS ARTICLE IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THE GYNECOLOGIST CHARGED WITH RAPE EXPLAINS WHY GYNECOLOGISTS LIE ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL FEELINGS AND SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH PATIENTS.
DOCTOR SAYS I LIED BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAVE MY CAREER AND MY MARRIAGE BUT I HAD A SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH MY PATIENT.
Gynecologist says sex with patient was consensual.
A longtime Chicago-area gynecologist on trial on charges he sexually assaulted a pregnant patient during a pelvic exam more than a decade ago testified Wednesday that the sex was consensual and that he had lied about it previously to protect his career and marriage.
Bruce Sylvester Smith was charged with criminal sexual assault a month after the Tribune reported in 2010 that he had been allowed to keep his gynecology practice for years despite numerous allegations against him of sexual misconduct involving several former patients.
Testifying in a calm, low voice Wednesday at the Leighton Criminal Court Building, Smith, 60, said he was performing a pelvic exam on the alleged victim at Chicago's Kennedy Medical Service Corp. in August 2002 when she grabbed his hand under the sheet and forced him into a sexual act.
Smith said no words were exchanged but that the patient was looking at him and "moaning."
"At that point I dropped my pants" and had consensual intercourse with her, Smith told jurors in Judge Clayton Crane's courtroom.
On cross-examination, Assistant State's Attorney Annette Milleville ridiculed Smith's account, asking repeatedly why he didn't say anything or put a stop to it if the patient had initiated the contact.
"I was curious," Smith said.
State disciplinary records show that immediately after leaving Smith's office, the woman called her sister, who contacted a rape hot line, the Tribune reported in 2010 as part of a series on lax regulatory procedures for doctors accused of abusing patients. At a counselor's urging, the woman underwent a rape exam at the University of Chicago Hospitals and filed a complaint with Chicago police days later.
Smith testified Wednesday that he was called to a police station in March 2003 and interviewed by a detective and a prosecutor about the incident. At the time, he denied there had been sexual intercourse because he was afraid of ruining his career and marriage, he testified.
The Cook County state's attorney's office declined to press charges at the time, records show.
In the absence of criminal charges, the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation allowed Smith to continue practicing. It wasn't until seven years later that the department suspended his license after at least four additional women alleged sexual misconduct.
The alleged victim in Smith's criminal case testified during the administrative proceedings that she was "afraid when she realized" what he was doing. "He's a doctor, and he's down there with my baby," the woman told authorities in 2008.
Smith's physician's license was revoked in 2011 for "failure to properly perform surgical procedures" on two patients unrelated to the sexual misconduct allegations, state records show.
Closing arguments in Smith's trial are scheduled Thursday. If convicted of the felony charge, he could face up to 15 years in prison.
jmeisner@tribune.com
THIS ARTICLE IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THE GYNECOLOGIST CHARGED WITH RAPE EXPLAINS WHY GYNECOLOGISTS LIE ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL FEELINGS AND SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH PATIENTS.
DOCTOR SAYS I LIED BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAVE MY CAREER AND MY MARRIAGE BUT I HAD A SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH MY PATIENT.
Gynecologist says sex with patient was consensual.
A longtime Chicago-area gynecologist on trial on charges he sexually assaulted a pregnant patient during a pelvic exam more than a decade ago testified Wednesday that the sex was consensual and that he had lied about it previously to protect his career and marriage.
Bruce Sylvester Smith was charged with criminal sexual assault a month after the Tribune reported in 2010 that he had been allowed to keep his gynecology practice for years despite numerous allegations against him of sexual misconduct involving several former patients.
Testifying in a calm, low voice Wednesday at the Leighton Criminal Court Building, Smith, 60, said he was performing a pelvic exam on the alleged victim at Chicago's Kennedy Medical Service Corp. in August 2002 when she grabbed his hand under the sheet and forced him into a sexual act.
Smith said no words were exchanged but that the patient was looking at him and "moaning."
"At that point I dropped my pants" and had consensual intercourse with her, Smith told jurors in Judge Clayton Crane's courtroom.
On cross-examination, Assistant State's Attorney Annette Milleville ridiculed Smith's account, asking repeatedly why he didn't say anything or put a stop to it if the patient had initiated the contact.
"I was curious," Smith said.
State disciplinary records show that immediately after leaving Smith's office, the woman called her sister, who contacted a rape hot line, the Tribune reported in 2010 as part of a series on lax regulatory procedures for doctors accused of abusing patients. At a counselor's urging, the woman underwent a rape exam at the University of Chicago Hospitals and filed a complaint with Chicago police days later.
Smith testified Wednesday that he was called to a police station in March 2003 and interviewed by a detective and a prosecutor about the incident. At the time, he denied there had been sexual intercourse because he was afraid of ruining his career and marriage, he testified.
The Cook County state's attorney's office declined to press charges at the time, records show.
In the absence of criminal charges, the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation allowed Smith to continue practicing. It wasn't until seven years later that the department suspended his license after at least four additional women alleged sexual misconduct.
The alleged victim in Smith's criminal case testified during the administrative proceedings that she was "afraid when she realized" what he was doing. "He's a doctor, and he's down there with my baby," the woman told authorities in 2008.
Smith's physician's license was revoked in 2011 for "failure to properly perform surgical procedures" on two patients unrelated to the sexual misconduct allegations, state records show.
Closing arguments in Smith's trial are scheduled Thursday. If convicted of the felony charge, he could face up to 15 years in prison.
jmeisner@tribune.com
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-16/news/ct-met-gynecologist-rape-trial-20130117_1_bruce-sylvester-smith-sexual-misconduct-complaint-with-chicago-police
DOCTOR NUMBER 10: Dr. Peter LaFuria MALE GYNECOLOGIST
MOST MALE GYNECOLOGISTS ARE VOYARISTS: THEY LIKE WATCHING THEIR FEMALE PATIENTS NAKED. BUT THIS GYNECOLOGIST WENT A STEP TOO FAR:
HE SECRETLY TOOK PICTURES OF HIS NAKED FEMALE PATIENTS WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT BECAUSE THE FEMALE PATIENTS AROUSED HIM.
state district judge has approved the final settlement in the civil case against Dr. Peter LaFuria, the former Lake Charles obstetrician/gynecologist who allegedly took pictures of patients in the exam room without their knowledge or permission.
The settlement means donations for several agencies that support women who are victims of sex crimes.
In the years immediately after LaFuria's arrest in 2007, patients who sued settled -- and received money ranging from hundreds of dollars to thousands, depending on their circumstances. The money paid out then came from LaFuria's personal assets according to plaintiff attorney Ron Richard.
"Previously what happened, there was a $3.75 million settlement. Basically what me and other class counsel did was, we went and took all of Dr. LaFuria's personal money. That was his assets. We grabbed them. We stopped him from running away with them and took that money and it was distributed to the women and that was a substantial some of money and women received checks, nice sized checks, and there was recovery," LaFuria said.
The settlement, just now approved, resolves remaining claims against LaFuria's insurance policies. Richard said the companies basically provided money to buy peace and resolve the case.
"There was no claim left against these insurance companies because it was an intentional act. It's not like the good doctor accidentally took pictures. It was an intentional act," Richard said.
Richard explains the $150,000 from the settlement will go to groups that help women who are victims of sex crimes.
"One-third will go to the rape crisis center function at Oasis, which is basically part of the women's shelter. One third will go to the actual women's shelter portion of Oasis and one third will go to the sexual assault response team which does the rape kits, the special team that does rape kits for the women that come in as victims of rape at the local hospital," said Richard.
The community settlement, as it's called, was approved by Judge Kent Savoie at a fairness hearing. At least one plaintiff in the case questioned whether the last bit of settlement money should be divvied up among the victims. Richard says the administrative costs of disbursing the money would have exceeded the amount of the settlement.
Criminal charges against LaFuria are still pending. But issues related to the criminal prosecution will be taken up in November. A mock jury selection will be held Wednesday, Nov. 7.
The mock jury selection is to help the court decide whether they are likely to have difficulty getting a panel of jurors who can be fair and unbiased to LaFuria in Calcasieu Parish where there has been publicity about the case.
LaFuria is charged with multiple counts of video voyeurism, sexual battery and molestation of a juvenile. First Assistant District Attorney Cynthia Killingsworth says there are close to 200 women who are victims in the case.
Other defense pretrial motions for a change of venue and to suppress evidence will be considered Thursday and Friday, Nov. 8 and 9. The motion to suppress certain evidence was started in October, but didn't finish.
LaFuria has been out on bond since his arrest in 2007. The criminal case is assigned to Judge David Ritchie.
READ MORE ABOUT THE CASE:
http://www.kplctv.com/story/19885855/lafuria-civil-settlement-to-help-victims-of-sex-crimes
http://www.kplctv.com/story/19981172/lafuria-patient-remembered-for-her-courage
http://www.kplctv.com/story/19783936/hearing-today-in-lafuria-case
THESE ARE ONLY A FEW OF THE PRESS ARTICLES WHICH REVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT MEN WHO LIKE PERFORMING INTIMATE EXAMINATIONS ON NAKED WOMEN.
THE PRESS REVEAL AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF THESE CASES.
WOMEN AND THEIR HUSBANDS DO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED.
THESE ARTICLES ARE A CONCRETE EVIDENCE OF SOMETHING WHICH IS CONSTANTLY DENIDED BY MALE DOCTORS PERFORMING INTIMATE EXAMNS ON WOMEN.
NOTICE THAT ALL THE ABUSERS ARE MALE.
NOTICE THAT ALL ABUSERS DENY ANY ACCUSATION AND DEFEND THEMSELVES AS PROFESSIONAL NEVER TURNED ON BY THEIR PATIENTS, UNTIL FORENSIC EVICDENCE SHOW THAT THEY WERE LYING TO DEFEND THEIR MARRIAGE AND THEIR CARREER.
THANKS FOR READING, AND WILL UPDATE YOU SOON WITH NEW PRESS ARTICLES.
I would say any rational person man or woman......if they are being honest and not just pushing their agenda would have to concede that all of the sexual abuses with nude and genital exam situations are basically all men.
I'm sure there must be at least 1 woman out their who did something so that I can't say 100% men but basically all of the criminal cases involve men and there is case after case after case of this stuff happening.
Since you know all of the doctors that have been charged have been men mathmatically women who choose male medical doctors for these exams are taking more of a risk of abuse.
I wonder why women would take that risk to begin with. It is notorious that all male doctors who have been convicted for sexual abuses somehow had the ability to choose their victims well (immature, naïve, less keen to speak out, depressed, desperate for infertility, ignorant, poor etc.). They also had the ability to dissimulate their real nature very well, acting like good professionals in most cases when they knew there was no chance of success.
If nature: Men are attracted to nude women, a few men like men but most like women. Similarly, Women are attracted to men. A few of them like women but most like men.
Additionally, People are usually modest and don't let strangers of the opposite sex see them nude.
If you are nude usually it is acceptable to be seen and touched by the same sex........
when women shower, it is ok to be in a women's locker room where other women may be.....they aren't offended and embarrassed. If a man walks in they grab clothes and yell.
If you are going to be patted down by TSA they make sure a lady agent is the one to do it. The woman probably would refuse if a man tried to do it.
You've got all of these factors, higher rate of crime, higher rate of doctor being sexaully attracted to the nude patient and the basic normal modesty norm of society.
It is indeed a deep cultural blind spot, a myth, that when breast and vagina exposure occur in medical setting men suddenly turn into robots and wave away all their thoughts. Why doesn't basic and common sense prevail on people...
Anyway, even if some women have no bones about it all of the above evidence should at least expose that many will not be ok with men in that situation and it is totally normal and rational for many to request women for nude female exams and shouldn't be looked down upon and clinics should expect lots of women to expect women to be offered as a choice with intimate exams.
It is also very clear that, despite professional manner and good salary, medical doctors do like watching and touching naked women and they find sexual gratification in it.
What kind of a creepy Jew would want to do this kind of work for 30 years?!
I did not like the reference to Jew People. That was not appropriate.
Once said this. I completely believe that the comments of Amanda are completely Biased in defense of her husband and of her role as a wife of a person who deals with other women's vaginas.
Of course she needed to open a website and write things like "one you have seen one vagina you have seen them all and you do not pay attention to them anymore"...How could she cope otherwise with her husband constantly watching and touching other women's breasts and vaginas.
The truth is From my experience (as a woman), some men just love vagina no matter what surrounds it!
I would say the gynecologists role would surely attract that kind of a person and I've known quite a few intellectual men that are no different. Men that don't get aroused by naked vagina are rare and probably unnatural.
Men are programmed to fancy vagina, that's basic nature and intelligence is not powerful enough to override the power of nature even though man would like to think so.
And yes men discriminate, the prettier you are, the kinder they are, and the more the time they dedicate to you.
No doubt why some women say men gynos are more caring...Male gynos spoil young beautiful patients with attention and additional time, because they are sexually attracted to them. That's not different from a man buying expensive drinks to the beautiful girls in the pub, helping the hot girl at the airport/train station to take her suitcase etc. Those "caring" acts and attentions that they wouldn't do for a man or an ugly girl, because they are all driven by sexual attraction.
Plus, to Amanda I would say the following. You said that if I want to know why a man decided to be a gyno I should ask him.
But you know what? People lie to hide uncomfortable and inconvenient truths.
Do you really expect that a male gyno will ever tell a patient, oh I chose the profession because I am a voyeur and love watching hot chicks naked and having a good excuse to touch their vaginas, and breasts?
Do you really think your husband will ever tell you: Hi honey, today there was this amazingly hot chick, She did not really need any exam, but I asked her to remove her underwear and open her legs for an unnecessary examination until the false pretense I had serious concerns for a health issue and I gave her a bi-manual examination. You know I loved putting my two lubricated fingers in both her vagina and her anus and I pushed them fully inside her.
Do you really expect him to do be that honest???
Facts prove that men love vaginas view and touch and cannot separate completely between exams and sexual acts. Until they are discovered, and it is extremely difficult to expose them, they will just find medical professional motivations to justify their choice...
Grow up.
From a Male husband perspective and father of 3 who has had a lot of experience with this issue, I feel that it is improper for a woman to recieve intimate care from a male ob/gyn when it can be avoided. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with being insecure or maturity, it has more to do with being "protective", and about "what's proper", and about "respect" for the relationship or marriage.
Way too many male ob/gyn doctors have crossed-the-line, and once a spouse has been violated, you can't take it back, so why take the chance? If a woman truly loves her SO or husband, then she would 1.) try to be as modest as possible, 2.) be respectful of his feelings, 3.) not expect him to endure such pain and disrespect. Now, if there were to ever be a "life threatening emergency", by all means 1st doctor available then please.
Fortunately, my wife shares the same convictions as I do, and has way to much respect for herself and also for me to ever electively expose herself in such an intimate way. Male doctors don't even have the same plumbing that women do, so it would be like going to a mechanic who has never owned a car. While my wife has other male doctors such as dentists, and eye doctors, she would never electively go to see a male gyn doctor. Being a male, I just don't think you can ever take the "male" out of being a "male".
A lot of women say that the process is simply "clinical", which I find hard to believe. Some women have been known to become aroused during these types of exams, and have also referred to their male ob/gyn's as being "cute", whereby making it improper. Who cares if a male doctor see's 20 women a day, it still doesn't make it "right" or "proper". I just wish that more women would follow their instincts.
This is not to say not to get any prenatal care, but to seek the right moral care, for both you and your spouse. What good is having "good health", when your husband or SO starts to resent you, and starts to lose interest in the process, or wants a divorce because he feels that you didn't do "everything" possible on your part to protect the intimacy of the marriage or relationship. In what better way could a woman show her man love and respect then to say "I go to women doctors for all of my intimate medical care and treatment".
Nice post Amanda. I'm just hurt at the idiotic comments people have posted out there.
Anyway. I am a doctor myself, Anesthesiologist. And I have a slight bias for male OB/GY. Maybe its applicable to only my country, but I feel male OB/GY are way better under acute stress, take better critical decisions and are a bit more skilled than the women. Mostly, not always. Maybe because female doctors in India are a recent phenomenon. Male Ob/Gy are more jovial, less snappy. I love my Ob/Gy. He's a fatherly old man. The female option I had was a rather anxious one, although a skilled lady with good experience. But I have seen her crumble under stress.
These are just my views, maybe I have a reverse bias. But all said and done, I feel male Ob/Gy are awesome.
Dear Varsha Naik.
Firstly, I would like to point out that having done a background check on the basis of your name, your name do not appear to be registered in the Indian Medical Registry.
Any reader of this blog can easily click on the link below and verify this by inserting your name in the doctor name field.
http://www.mciindia.org/InformationDesk/IndianMedicalRegister.aspx
Given you are apparently using your real name and showing your real picture, I believe it should not be a problem to you to provide your full name and license number for a check of your credentials.
In the opposite case, I will have to warn all the readers that your post is likely to be a bogus post from a fake user, whose only aim is providing biased and unreliable information to the readers of this blog.
Secondly, I believe that in your capacity as a doctor, calling idiotic the posts written by patients who express feelings of discomfort for male doctors treating themselves (if women), their wives (if husbands), and their daughters (if parents), is inappropriate. The medical code imposes to each doctor to respect the individual sense of privacy, the individual cultural and religious belief of each patient. IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR INSULTING PATIENTS WHO EXPRESS DISCONFORT TOWARDS CROSS-GENDER EXAMINATIONS IS A VIOLATION OF THE MEDICAL CODE.
Secondly, you yourself have been extremely discriminatory towards female doctors and in particular towards female gynecologists, by stating that "male OB/GY are way better under acute stress, take better critical decisions and are a bit more skilled than the women". THIS STATEMENT IS COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED BY MEDICAL RESEARCH AND AS SUCH YOUR STATEMENT IS COMPLETELY FALSE AND MISLEADING.
IF YOU ARE A MEDICAL DOCOTOR (WHICH UP TO NOW IS A FACT WHICH NEEDS TO BE PROVEN) I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT INTENTIONALLY PROVIDING INACCURATE, BIASED, MISLEADING AND UNSCIENTIFIC MEDICAL INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC IS A VIOLATION OF THE MEDICAL CODE. AS SUCH YOU SHOULD AVOID IT.
My post follows below….
…This post follows from above…
Upon request I can provide supporting evidence, based on scientific papers, published in international medical journals or by authoritative medical boards, which support the view that:
1) Medical doctors are likely to experience sexual attraction to some of their patients and vice versa patients are likely to experience sexual attraction to medical doctors at some point
2) Medical doctors do not completely separate between intimate medical examinations and sexual acts
3) Sexual misconducts are frequent and go from percentages of 5, up to 18% in the field of gynecology
4) Sexual misconducts are conducted mostly by male doctors towards female patients with percentages which go from 97 to 100% of the total sexual misconducts
5) Visual sexual stimuli are twice more effective on male than of female individuals, and there is no evidence that these statistics do not apply or have significant changes for medical doctors compared to other professionals.
6) Men/women have frequent daily sexual thoughts both inside and outside the work environment, and there is no evidence that these statistics do not apply or have significant changes for medical doctors compared to other professionals.
7) The teaching of intimate examinations to medical students (an in particular of cross-gender intimate examinations) is often practiced without obtaining a valid consent by patients, and these constitute in most of the cases battery or sexual assault towards patients, especially when these are uninformed and under anesthesia.
8) Female Gynecologists are in higher and constantly growing demand by both patients and employers and it can be inferred that female gynecologists are better able to satisfy patients’ medical and non-medical needs.
9) Court pronouncements in several states have declared that the preference of female doctors for positions which require intimate exams over women does not constitute gender discrimination but a fulfillment of the constitutional and human rights to maintain privacy and dignity during such examination.
IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A MEDICAL DOCTOR I STRONGLY INVITE YOU TO PROVIDE SUPPORTING EVIDENCE TO YOUR STATEMENT THAT FEMALE MEDICAL DOCTORS AND IN PARTICULAR FEMALE GYNAECOLOGISTS ARE LESS ABLE TO MANAGE ACUTE STRESS, ARE LESS ABLE TO TAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS AND ARE A BIT LESS SKILLED THAN MEN.
ALTERNATIVELY, I STRONLY INVITE YOU TO TAKE BACK ALL YOUR BIASED, UNSCIENTIFIC AND UNRELIABLE STATEMENTS, AND APOLOGISE TO THE PUBLIC WHICH YOU HAVE STRONGLY MISINFORMED, AND TO THE FEMALE DOCTORS WHO YOU HAVE STRONGLY OFFENDED.
IN THE LACK OF ANY RELEVANT, PERTINENT AND SCIENTIFIC ANSWER TO MY POST FROM YOUR SIDE, I MUST INVITE ALL READERS TO DISMISS YOUR STATEMENT AS BOGUS, PROPAGANDA, and TRASH, UTTERLY IRRELEVANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY VALUABLE DISCUSSION.
Kind regards,
Qualified Opinion
Thank you Qualified Opinion
We have read throughout this blog and your post are always intellectual and very well thought out.
It seems that Varsha Naik is a scam.
Another bogus identity to spread propaganda in defense of the old establishment which does not want to recognize patients' rights.
Patients who prefer same gender healthcare staff to take care of intimate examinations are not at all idiotic.
They are people who want to maintain their privacy and modesty in the medical setting as much as they maintain it outside.
There is really no reason to give up dignity, privacy and modesty just because one needs medical care.
I and my husband love each other, and we take care of our health in mutual respect of our privacy as a couple and of our mutual feelings.
Interesting weblog, You may want to consider limiting unknown leaving comments on your website. It discounts any significant conversation or reviews in the opinion area when the premature and unaware are permitted to run widespread.
You are rude
Wow yeah you women and guys osting here sound insane stupid and 5 years old, get a brain and do some reading before you just speak. I see a male OBGYN and always have, without incident or problems. No Im sorry but pelvic exams HURT a lot of us and theres no good feeling going on, ok, thats total BS. Also, some men do this job because they do NOThave the parts themaelf and have a natural curiosity that they want to learn of& it turns to a career, qomen also who examine male genitals. Everyones curious as to what they dont have& know. They learn well& study it. You idiots talk as if all guys are out of control perverted animaliatic jerks who have to civil morals or mental capacity. Humans are NOT like that, So sorry to disappoint all the man haters & male OBGYNs haters out there, but the gender is a non issue. Irrelevent betond anything other than patient preference if they have one. I dont. And I have never been touched funny or excessive, never been hit on or molested or anything by any Dr. Obgyn or otherwise. Im no ugly woman either, and as far as OBGYN exams- ppl go there with STD symptoms, crabs, cancer, for pap smears which are NOT done with fingers, its a clamp to spread open the area, & a long swab stick. I cant recall ever having my OBGYN stick fingers in and move around. Its one quick check, noplace near the clitoral areas. Some men really in fact ARE interested& caring to womens bidy and health needs, not sexually. Also a ton of males think childbirth is beautiful & non sexually deliver children just fine. The same as myself, as a woman hate children& never want any& find the whole concept disgusting or unnatural. See, ALL women do NOT love babies or care abt them, I do NOT. And in turn all men do not NOT care. The guy who examins me annualy does a fine& professional job. Hes never groped me elsewhere or tried to treat me oddly or like an object. Thats just stupidity, & in what world is a doctors exam called "cheating" on hos wife? These ppl are morons& it makes me lose hope in the human race to read the idiotic rambling crap some have written above.
Exactly!! This idiotic idea that all straight men have the mind of an animal and somehow are under influence of some sex crazy instinct is utter nonsense that makes me enraged, as a woman who befriends mainly guys. Has had times sleeping next to them in beds, shared hotel rooms, saw each other naked and not once thought twice abt it or sex and all sorts of things with not one iota of flirting sexual arousal or touches, Men have control! A LOT if they wish to and doctors wish to& simply must be professional.I am far from ugly so thats not the reason for my experiences. Dr has never done any inappropriate touches, words, or thing EVER either& all five of my doctors are MEN. I prefer it that way& yes they DO care for real, this isnt a sick subconcious issue for ppl, its a well paying JOB. Whats wrong with you narrow minded man haters anyhow? If YOU have sexual control and the ability to see a job from a sex encounter- then all MEN also can! Theres NO Difference& I mean none between the two genders sex drives& desire. Thats a MYTH and an outdated one at that to claim guys have no control& only want sex but women do not? Get a life people maybe some of the women have ego issues& just like to think every guy wants her including Dr. Huh? All men are not lusting after you and you need to get over yourself quick.
And you are a sad stupid ignorant moronic piece of trash who uses the childish trashy language of a 12 year old still a virgin in school trying to sneak peeks at the classroom national geographic for kicks, and you need to grow up, man is not naturally perverted. Men feel the way YOU feel abt sex. You dont have to touch or rape someone every day do u now? Ypu have control and all men do too. It makes me sad that you and your stupid opinion even exist & if you spoke that way in person around me youd no longer have teeth to speak with .
I choose men OBGYN over a female every time because all women do is compare themselves to other women and women are catty to me& I dont get along with them in friendships nor professionally. I love myself all to H I just prefer male doctors and my self esteem is probably above average. Im not looking for a thrill I want an exam is all. Just dislike women as a woman myself, dont relate to women& prefer males. And thats fine nothing wrong with me or my self esteem or my doctor either. Hes professional and thats it. Women probably more likely to make fun of other females looks or genitalia and mentally compare to theirs. Males have none like us & therefore cannot judge.
Hi Amanda, Thank you for this post. I have to defend male doctors against those who say men cannot sympathize with what's happening in a female body. I've suffered with endometriosis for many years and soon after having my tubes tied my pain began to intensify to the point where I would cry and have to miss work because I couldn't get out of bed. My gyno at the time (who was male) simply said to take ibuprofen the for pain. We also rotated through many birth control methods as well with little help. A few years later I moved and began seeing a female gyno and I thought she would surely better understand a woman's needs. I was wrong. WE again tried many forms of birth control and hormones only to have no change or worse symptoms in some cases. I was so miserable and sick and anemic. I'd begged her for an endometrial ablation but she refused saying I was too yet. I was so upset--I'd had my tubed tied for ten years yet my reproductive system was ruling my life. Thankfully one of my coworkers mentioned a new gyno she was seeing who happened to be a male. I scheduled an appointment and he was way more sympathetic than any gyno I'd had! He agreed there was no more reason I should have this pain and no reason I should be on the birth control ferris wheel. Not only did he give me an endometrial ablation within two months but also prescribed me tramadol for the pain in the mean time. Unfortunately the procedure dramatically slowed my bleeding but did nothing for the pain. So last month--four months after my ablation--I had a hysterectomy. And he has been so helpful through the entire process. Male gynos have wives, mothers, sisters and daughters and I would imagine many of them treat their patients as they would want their loved ones treated. And it's because of my male gyno that I am finally--after 10 years of being in pain--on my way to a pain-free life!
I am a pretty Asian women with strict Asian customs about disrobing in front of men Of course my husband said this is the US and you can't always get a female Ob/Gyn doctor even when I specifically ask for them
Well I went to the Ob/Gyn and I can speak english and never asked for an interpreter Well I objected and told them I insisted on a female Vietnamese interpreter if they forced me to have one present or my husband could just translate since he is a doctor too and they finally brought one in the next time I went to the doctor then they told me to come back because I had vaginosis and the doctor wanted this man who is not a doctor to show me how to use a vaginal dilator on my vagina it looks like a sex toy) well I really objected and told him to leave. I told the doctor he could show me how to use it or my husband could or the female nurse and remember I can speak simple English. Well I told the doctor I never wanted that male interpreter again to be present and they could find a woman. When I first met this man once before he kept giving me strange looks and tried to speak to me in an intimate way under the disguise of my foreign language and that is one of the reasons I objected to having him present in the future he seemed to interested in trying to see me naked. Well 4 office visits later he came back after they stopped using any interpreter anymore and I told the doctor what is this man doing here I explicitly told you never to bring him here again especially when I don't need an interpreter and I was about to expose my vagina which had a catheter inserted in and I had to lift my dress. Well when I saw this interpreter come in the office his first remark to me was Hello Gorgeous its nice to see you again I was so humiliated and insulted by the way he talked to me as if was some hooker in a bar or as if I was his lover and he did it in front of my husband, doctor and nurse knowing that they had no way of knowing what he said to me and he knew according to our Asian customs he is never allowed to speak to respectable married women this way Would you consider this as sexual harassment. It gave my husband the impression that I may had led this man on in some way and perhaps the interpreter felt I condoned his remark. I was insulted by this interpreter treating me like this is a doctors office how can this doctor allow him to work there? is this how he talks to women who are asked to get naked in front of him When I complained and filed a complaint they told me they didn't have to discipline if they didn't want to and they would even tell me if they ever investigate the case or inquired with any other past Asian women to see if he had made similar remarks to them. I think he is just hoping to get lucky and hopes he can get sex or some sexual favor from an uneducated Asian woman who is one of these patients without the doctor even knowing what he is saying to these Asian women These women may even feel forced to give this man sex or else they may deny them treatment just as these doctors do to their patients in 3rd world countries Should this man be fired or taken before the state board He could have been acting this way for years especially if he tried it on me the 2nd time I ever saw him.. Whats going to happen when these women finally come forth and complain perhaps he has been raping women for year and the hospital and doctor could care less as if they are covering up the whole affair and what gets me is that they receive money from the state, donors and so forth to hire female women interpreters but they just keep the money
I have a lot to say about men in the profession of helping women with their personal matter regarding gynecology and obstetrics. I am married to a third year medical student and he did his rotation at in the hospital as well as in a clinical setting. I used to be a little hazy on how I felt about it, but now I am absolutely positive it is wrong. The questions they have to ask women that come in is wrong. Asking about all of the ins and outs of their sex life, if they need to talk to him about her sexual desires, feelings, needs. The duties they have to preform on women is wrong. No way, not what men should be doing. Why is it okay now that men are involved with birthing women? Hundreds of years ago men were ABSOLUTELY not allowed to be with women when they gave birth. Wrong wrong wrong.
When I was young, I thought it strange that young girls were left alone to be probed by men. Turns out, so did the boys.
When I was older, I was abused by the same (OBGYN men.) One went as far to pinch my ovaries as hard as he could "to teach me what is was like to have your balls smashed.)WTH?
An IUD perforated my uterus because over zealous male OBGYN wanted to put it right away after I suffered a miscarriage.I suffered another D&C for that.
Much later, I foudn that in the service, docs are too busy to perform things like Pap smears.In 7 years I had 3, and strangely enough all the women on that base showed up with irregular Paps at the same time. I still think we were human guinea pigs of some type of experiment. It did not turn out well for everyone.
So, where were the female OBGYNs? Not available. Ever. Bound and gagged in the closet for all I know. There were never any "same sex" technicians around either, and the male OBGYN men took advantage of it. The seductive talk, the extra touching, coddling, cheesy seductive crap. Civilian docs were worse than military docs. It's a deviant mentality to corner women and demand access to their bodies.
NoOw? Not so much. No one wants to feel and see an older woman's reproductive organs or breasts.They want to chastise you for not having children (Hello! Have you forgotten about my miscarriages and botched BC?) and carry on about how I shouldn't now. The female OBGYN bitch (about how great their kids are but you don't deserve the same)and the male OBGYNs don't want to examine at all. They can drag out a simple annual into an extended naked history test instead. My history is not going to change because I'm naked, and if you don't want to touch me, good! I hate being touched by docs now because of those repeated molestations and abuse.
Based on a lifetime of this, yeah, I would say it's a pervy/power thing.
I'd still like someone to crack the gonads of the OBGYN who intentionally hurt me. So does my husband, who still can't believe there are doctors like this out there. Unfortunately, they are right under your nose. Bring your webcam with you.
thank u for this :) my husband just emailed me all excited that he delivered a baby n I'm here like ... what should i say? =) u get mixed feelings u know :)
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Pretty sure some of the crazier posts on here were in fact posted by men.
Anyone who has had a pap/ smear test wouldn't be calling in sexual in any way.
Also can we just realise how sexist it is to accuse men of "not being able to control themselves" as if they are 5 year olds in a sweet shop.
Great article, frankly shocking comments.
Dear Reader,
I am a doctor and I am not British, and I am currently based outside the UK.
I am a professor in a World-Leading Research-Oriented University.
I posted other times in different forums and I usually do so quoting relevant publications from authoritative sources.
You may not agree with Pailrider or other posters here, however you must agree with what Establish Doctors who educate students explain every year. I will quote you some parts from a paper entitled Professionalism and Sexuality. This is written by Richard M. Frankel, PhD, & Sarah Williams, MD who are authors of several educational books and lectures for medical students all around the world. They state the following:
"Sexuality and sexual feelings are omnipresent parts
of life. They do not magically disappear (although
sometimes we wish they would!) just because we become
doctors, nurses, or therapists, or because we are
interacting with patients or professional colleagues.
Despite the importance and complexity of this aspect
of medicine, most of us enter practice quite unprepared
to deal with these issues.
Not surprisingly. education about sexuality in
medical practice remains woefully inadequate.
Furthermore, when these issues are addressed. discussion
tends to focus on issues of excess, abuse, and harassment.
thereby precluding a fuller and fairer exploration
of the role of sexuality in professional
relationships with patients, colleagues, and trainees.
For the past 4 years, the authors have conducted a
small group workshop designed to explore sexuality
and professionalism with practicing physicians, faculty,
and trainees. We have done workshops with more
than 75 doctors and other health professionals at
various levels of training about sexual issues in professional life. Their stories make up the raw data for
this chapter.
From listening to and studying these stories, we
have learned that sexual feelings and conflicts inform
many aspects of providers’ interactions with patients
and colleagues. When these issues are recognized and
accepted (and worked through as needed), they need
not be harmful and may, in fact, enhance work satisfaction
and effectiveness. On the other hand, when
providers are uncomfortable with their sexual feelings
or conflicts, and try to avoid or ignore them, negative
consequences for patient care, and perhaps for the
providers themselves, are much more likely....
...Methods & Materials
Since 1991, the authors have led several workshops
entitled,“Sexual Issues in the Workplace,” designed
for physicians and other health-care professionals to
explore issues of sexuality in professional life. At
these workshops, participants are invited “to write a
5-minute narrative about sexual issues in the workplace.”
Of the 75 physicians and other health-care
providers who have attended the workshops, 55
(73%) have volunteered stories for inclusion in a research
database. These 55 narratives form the basis of
our chapter in this book.
....THE PHYSICIAN’S SEXUALITY:
IDENTITY, TRAINING, &
DEVELOPMENTAL EXPERIENCES
The Doctor as Sexual Being
Sexuality, defined narrowly, means engaging in
sexual activity with another person. Sexuality of this
sort has been widely discussed and is generally considered
to be inappropriate in the medical workplace;
as such it is not explored further in this chapter.
There has been far less discussion, however, of a
more comprehensive understanding of sexuality, one
that includes thoughts and feelings about sex, oreven
more broadly-sees sexuality as part of our
identity, our desire and capacity for intimacy, and an
integral part of our physical and emotional vitality.
This subtler but no less important aspect of our professional
lives is the topic of the following section, in
which we look at the physician’s sexuality in terms of
identity and connectedness. medical training, and developmental
experiences…..
…..Sexuality in Medical Training
Learning to be a doctor involves intense contacts
and physical intimacy, which can heighten sexual
feelings and tensions. Often the setting becomes so
routine for practicing professionals and teachers that
its effect on trainees may be overlooked….
BOUNDARY CONFUSIONS,
CROSSINGS, & VIOLATIONS
male resident describes the arousing effect taking
sexual history had on him.
Case illustration II: I was working at the adolescent
clinic where I had been told that it was my obligation to
talk about sex with my patients. There was this young,
attractive black teenager who came to see me and the
discussion got very detailed and explicit about sexual
positions and arousal and things. And I couldn’t help it.
I was trying to be very professional about my questions
but the more she talked, the more aroused I felt myself
become. It was embarrassing sitting there with an erection,
but I just couldn’t help it.
Note that, despite having an erection and feeling
embarrassed (confused), the physician inappropriately
continued to elicit additional sexual history from
the patient; had he had more awareness and training
for dealing with these issues. he might have been able
to redirect the interview more effectively.
In some cases boundary confusion around sexual
issues may create enough tension to inhibit or prevent
a physician from providing appropriate care, as is illustrated
in the following case illustration.
Case ilhtration 12: I was working in the emergency
department and here comes an attractive 20-2 1 -year-old
lady with a complaint of severe abdominal pain. She has
a history of pancreatitis in the past. I know that I have to
do a pelvic/rectal on her in order to be complete and not
to miss any other etiologies for her abdominal pain. But
I opted not to, hoping that her arnylase and lipase would
come back positive, so I wouldn’t have to do them.
Boundary Crossings
Boundary confusions arise because the physician
or patient becomes aware of ambiguous feelings
around sexual issues in the relationship. Boundary
crossings occur when the physician or patient begins
acting on these feelings. Some boundary crossings are
brief, episodic, and unilateral as described in the following
case illustration.
Case illustration 23: I recall an elderly gentleman who
was homeless and indigent that I saw in the emergency
room as a medical student. After he received his care, he
asked if he could have a kiss and pulled me down to kiss
me (not sexual, but more intimate than I wanted to be
with this patient)...
OTHER RELEVANT ISSUES DISCUSSED IN SEXUALITY AND PROFESSIONALISM BY Richard M. Frankel, PhD, & Sarah Williams, MD ARE ILLUSTRATED BELOW:
"...More characteristically the boundary crossings described
in our case illustrations developed over time
and followed a certain developmental “trajectory” in
which both the physician and patient (and sometimes
the staff) are aware that something other than an appropriate
doctor-patient relationship is emerging.
Characteristic in these illustrations is an abrupt “cut
off’ of the relationship at the point at which a suggestion
(such as having sex) would move the relationship
from a boundary crossing to a violation of the physician’s
ethical code.
Case illustration 14: A young, attractive woman presented
to the emergency room for evaluation of asthma.
After initial treatment by me, she was given an appointment
for follow-up in my general medicine clinic. Over
the course of the next several months she presented to
clinic unexpectedly several times with complaints of
breast problems, genitourinary symptoms. requesting
breast and pelvic exams. During the course of these she
regularly made seductive comments. These episodes
progressed to the point of frequent calls to me during office
and nonoffice hours. I obviously enjoyed the encounters-
yet when, finally, I was explicitly solicited. I
declined sexual participation. after which the patient was
never heard from.
The characteristic feature of sexual boundary crossings
is ambiguity: The relationship appears to become
increasingly sexualized, but nothing explicit has been
said or done. As each person’s perceptions become
clouded by his or her own desires and fears, it becomes
increasingly difficult to “read” the other’s behavior
or understand its meaning.
In the next case illustration, a resident physician
describes a growing awareness of his own attraction
to a female patient and his perception or assumption
of reciprocation on her part. At the point at which he
brings explicit attention to the sexual dimension of
their relation-ship, the patient responds with anger
and terminates the relationship. Was it the resident’s
fantasies and mistaken interpretation of the patient’s
behavior that characterized their relationship or mutual
sexual attraction?
Case illrcsfrution 15: There was a patient that I saw recently.
She’s 19 and came in with complaints of irregular
periods wanting a pregnancy test and pelvic exam. I
went ahead and did a pelvic exam ... I did a thorough
exam, but maybe I was a little too thorough. Sometimes
I don’t do a breast exam when I do a pelvic exam, but in
this case I did and it was extra thorough. And I thought
to myself,“Am I toying with this patient?” because she
was kind of ... very flirtatious and I knew I had this
position of power and I was kind of struggling with that
in the long run but I didn’t resolve it, I didn’t step outside
and try to collect my thoughts and stuff. It made me
feel really clouded, you know.
I gave her my card and told her to call me at my regular
clinic ... and she’s been here twice and she made
several phone calls. And initially I was kind of friendly,
you know, maybe a little too friendly. You know, there
was probably some mutual flirtation going on here ...
she came to me another time for a rash. When I asked her
to show me the rash she took off her sweatshirt and jeans
and underneath it all she was wearing this sexy “teddy.”
Well, the next time she came back, about a week later,
she had a different teddy on and I said in a flippant sort
of way,‘That’s an interesting way of dressing to come to
see the doctor.” Well, she got really anUgly and basically
walked out of my clinic and hasn’t been back since. I
know I wasn’t completely blameless in this situation, but
still I was surprised that she got so angry and never came
back....."
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTELLIGENT, CULTURED AND EDUCATED SHOULD STOP DENYING SEXUALITY EXISTS IN THE MEDICAL AS IN ANY OTHER PROFESSION AND SHOULD STUDY IT AND UNDERSTAND IT.
Best wishes, God Bless you
Qualified Opinion
I would leave my wife if she saw a male gyno.
Seriously? We have choices. We are not still living in the 1950's. there are female gynos everywhere. Why would any female choose to visit a male gyno, be ordered to remove all of her clothes and let him put his hands all over her breasts, his fingers inside of her vagina?
I get that the exam is necessary, but it can be conducted by a female.
If my wife cheated on me, I would leave her. To me, her making a consious choice to visit a male gyno is no different. It essentially is saying to me that she does not have any respect for the intimacy of our marrige and relationship and can see nothing wrong it letting other men look at her naked and or put their hands all over (and in) her naked body.
My wife has told me that when she was younger she was naive and visited her GP (male) for a general check up. He made her take off all of her clothes so he could examine her breasts. He made her sit in various positions with no top on, so that he could get a good look at her bare breasts. He then got her to lay flat on her back while she still had no top on. He then proceeded to feel her breasts. I used to think that this was a quick feel through the sheet and that they didn't touch the nipples. This is far from the case. She was completely topless and the doc massages and feels every part of her breasts, while getting an eyefull at the same time. He then rubs her nipples. Later, her then takes the sheet completely away from her waist, completely exposing her vagina. He then pulls up a chair and sits between her legs about a foot away from her bare exposed vagina. This is when he puts one finger inside her vagina and one finger up her anus and has a good feel around.
Seriously?
If this was a stranger doing this, it would be called rape and charges would be pressed. If it was someone you knew, then you would consider that your wife was cheating on you and you would leave her. Because the man has a white coat on, we are supposed to accept that he is a professional and we are to take it as normal?
If he was doing this to my 16 year old daughter, then he would go to jail.
Wake up everybody!
I've been reading a few posts about this topic. There seem to be a few men who got into gyno so that they can be around naked women all day. Some have even done tests and have found that the attractive girls are being made to have more breast and gyno exams than what they really need. I remember going to the GP with my girlfriend when I was 19, she was 17 and very sexy. She only went to the doctor because she had a cold. The doctor kept asking when she last had a pap smear and her breasts examined. He was hinting that he should do it there and then. She insisted that she had not long had one, but he kept insisting she should have another one!
If my wife was pregnant and having complications and there was only a male gyno around, then so be it. If she had breast cancer and had to see a male specialist, then so be it. BUT, if it's a routine checkup and she has the choice, then why would she choose to see a male?
She knows that she is going to have to take all of her clothes off in front of a strange man she doesn't know. She knows that he will be touching all of her private parts. Why would she want this? and why would she think it's ok if she's happily married?
This post is from a lady married to a gyno asking why he got into the field in the first place. Seriously, is he really going to tell you the truth?
Well honey ... I really wanted to become a gyno so that I could be up to my ears in tits and arse all day! I wanted to have the power to command women of all ages to take off all of their clothes and let me stare at them, make them get into various positions and then let me fondle their breasts and nipples, then put my fingers inside their vaginas!
Ive seen too much evidence to believe otherwise.
Come on ladies, it's time to wake up! Male gynos are perverts! Why do you think they got into the field in the first place?
Manu sorry you feel bad when woman rejects a male obsgyn. I know its offending for a professional. But I too just don't know why out of allllll the different things you could have helped with, you chose a woman's most intimate part. I can't help but wish eventually there is a ban on male obsgyn so it we ensure that every qualified female obsgyn doesn't have to deal with added competition for work by men! When I am in need of urgent care down there...I hope that there will be enough females so I don't have to resort to a male obsgyn.
What a great logical response. ..totally right and its called "male instinct". It's stupid to say they're all perverts but I agree it's odd....To male obsgyns.. JUST CHOOSE ANOTHER 100 DIFFERENT MEDICAL PRACTICIES! !!!! PLEASE?
YES YES YES, THANKS MARTY I LOVE YOUR LAST COUPLE OF LINES LETS HOPE IT HAPPENS. WOMAN SPEAKING.
I hope this post puts off any future male obsgyns. I am going to petition for a female obsgyn to be present at all times in all hospitals. This should hopefully reduce the number of male gyns and allow women to make choice emergency or not....and this is only because obsgyns primary role is to inspect women's private parts. ..yes other medical roles may have this as part of their practice but it is certainly not primary.
Hey!
I'm a red blooded male. I'd love to be paid to look at naked women all day. Where do I sign?
Explain to me how it's remotely even possible that a male gyno switches off when looking at a naked women?
People try to reason with BS logic that because these men see naked women all of the time that they can somehow just switch off and in fact - even get sick of seeing them! - Yeah right!!
I've been married to the same woman for the past 23 years. I never get sick of seeing her naked. When she is in the shower, I'll take a look! Even though I see her naked 2 times every day for the past 2 decades, I still love looking at her body. It's how I and every other male on the planet is wired. We are programmed to respond to seeing a womens body. We have testosterone running through our body that causes us to become aroused when we see a naked woman. We have no control over this, it's just how we are.
If I - and most men on the planet can still get turned on from seeing the same women that we see every single day, for years on end. Then how much more so if we are constantly surrounded every day by dozens of different women of all ages, shapes and sizes all taking their clothes off in front of us at our demand!
There is no argument. If a man is put in a position where he sees naked women all day and is touching their genitals and their breasts, then it's going to be very satisfying indeed.
Regardless of how professional the male gyno may seem, and I'm sure there are many who do. I would certainly NOT want my wife, girlfriend, sister or daughter going to see a male gyno. There is no need to as there are plenty of females who can do the job.
This is NOT a job for males!
I know some male doctors.
Trust me - With or without the white coat on, they are still males, first and foremost. I encourage other girls, women to make smart choices.
Would you cheat on your husband? would you want him to cheat on you?
Why then, is it ok to allow yourself to be locked in a small room with a man you don't know, take off all of your clothes and let him examine and touch your naked body?
It is YOUR choice to see either a male or a female gynecologist. Your body is private, it's only to be shared between you and your boyfriend or husband.
If you're comfortable taking off your clothes in front of another man, they you should also be comfortable with your husband or boyfriend if he comes home and tells you that he's been with another woman. It's no different.
It seems to me that you are not very thoughtful at all and speak out of deep ignorance yourself and deep disregard for empirical evidence.
The study which Qualified Opinion reported below clearly explains the inner conflicts of the majority of doctors in treating patients of the other gender clearly explaining the pervasiveness of sexual thoughts and feelings also in the medical settings.
That was not at all an ignorant and biased comment as it referred to medical literature written by two Medical Doctors and University Professors from Stanford University and Illinois universities which are among the most prestigious universities of the world.
Several studies which have been quoted in this blog as well also report that sexual misconducts in the medical settings go from 4 to 13% and are mostly committed by men treating women.
The field of medicine is the only field where one gender is authorized to access the other gender body for intimate examinations. This leads to several cases of abuse of power and abuse of asymmetry of information. A patient does not know whether the advice of you checking her breast is necessarily useful to her health care.
Several male doctors in the paper written by the Stanford University and Illinois University professors admitted that they undertook examinations of unaware patients just because they were aroused and they had the power to do so.
This is a disgrace which stems from the current cultural blind spot which wants us to think that doctors are immune to sexual attraction and will never take advantage of the privileged position for sexual gratification.
Unfortunately doctors are not sufficiently monitored and most of the doctors who get caught committing misconducts go undetected for tens of years.
I am a police officer, If I need to search a person of the opposite gender by touching some private areas, I call a colleague of the same gender of the person which has to be searched. That is normal practice.
I do not call that sexist, because it is not sexism. It is just a matter of respecting sexual boundaries. A male gynecologist who sees someone else's wife or girlfriend or daughter naked is not respecting sexual boundaries. He sees that woman as only her husband or boyfriend would see her otherwise. The fact that a woman needs to be medically treated does not justifies a man examining her. We live in the XXI Century, there are plenty of female doctors who are as qualified as men and who could do the job without breaching sexual boundaries.
This is exactly what happens in all the other professions and it is time for this to happen also in the medical setting.
Same gender doctors should always be available for intimate examinations. As same gender police officers are always available for intimate searches.
The fact that there are not enough same gender doctors at all times is a matter of poor organization or lack of concern for modesty and sexual boundaries in the medical setting.
Most people think this attitude of superiority should change. And you know what, IT WILL CHANGE AND IT IS CHANGING.
In an emergency situation it can be justified that intimate exams are performed by a doctor of different gender. However, in standard examination when there is no emergency, there is no genuine justification because a medical practice or a hospital should always have a doctor of the same gender available for those exams.
I repeat searching people at the airport happens all the time. We never have the problem of using cross-gender searching for a reason: We always have a balanced number of female/male officers to prevent this.
Medical Practices and Hospital should do the same.
The amount of good female doctors is now equals to the amount of good male doctors. In some specializations like Gynecology now there are more women.
No excuses for male gynecologists and cross gender intimate examinations in the XXI century.
As a male gynae and obstetrician myself, i can simply say in my professional opinion to the people who say such low things of us:
I call bullshit on your bullshit. Find another bloggers board to troll you keyboard warriors and leave this brave woman alone.
I actually prefer a male obgyn. I find that they're less judgmental and far more respectful. When I went into labor I was having HELL for the first 24 hours because of a woman who was both stuck up and ridiculous. The minute the male obgyn came on shift, labor was done in 2 hours and the whole experience became less terrible at the worst part!
During my pregnancy, the obgyn only did ONE vaginal exam which was less than 2 minutes long, and felt to see if I was dilated before labor which was less than 30 seconds long.
Their jobs are far different than sexual.
I personally am not a secure enough person to date an obgyn, but honestly? That's my own flaw in self esteem.
The only thing I'd imagine, is that when obs have sex with their wives... It's probably be more about intimacy, not sexual. But who knows lol
Please find this video which documents about Dr Christopher Driskill, a 42-year-old obstetrician and gynaecologist,
having sex with several patients, some of which pregnant and about to have babies.
Please find this video which documents about Dr Christopher Driskill, a 42-year-old obstetrician and gynaecologist,
having sex with several patients, some of which pregnant and about to have babies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5N2bAZIRQM
And, no this is not just a bad apple. Doctors do feel aroused often. However, they do not always act on their arousal. Many of them simply enjoy the view of their naked patients.
And given this evidence, some patients of male gynaecologists clearly chose them for receiving sexual attention. Otherwise, sexual encounters would have not happened, as these female patients were bot violated, they simply had voluntary sex with this doctor.
Just a food for thought on those to state male doctors never feel aroused and women only choose them for their medical qualities...yeah right!!!!
Medical Patient Modesty is a troll and not a professional. She has made derogatory comments about gays and lesbians, sure one is entitled to your own views, but she is being misleading by claiming that she is an organization that seems to be a reputable health care organization when its an astroturf organization.
She doesn't have much in the way of health certifications and probably none at all.
I actually like this idea:
A MALE DOCTOR SHOULD ALWAYS INFORM THE WOMAN THAT IF AN INTIMATE EXAM IS NECESSARY, HE CAN REFER THE WOMAN TO THE FIRST AVAILABLE FEMALE DOCTOR AND LET THE FEMALE DOCTOR DO THE EXAM. SO THAT A WOMAN CAN MAKE, A RELAXED AND INDEPENDENT DECISION...
Awesome. You, sir, are truly awesome. Keep up the good work.
The short answer to why her husband became a vag doc was he realized he'd have to look at her ugly mug for a lifetime & would rather be knee deep in strange womens' holes.
Oh come off your high horse. I personally *would* want to go to doc who has experienced what I have & with obgyn, I can. Because you've delivered babies (meaning: hanging around while the nurses are with the laboring woman) you know exactly what it feels like to give birth. Just quit fooling yourself that you know more about yhe experience than the actual person experience! So sick of docs like you talking down to women!!!
Race car driver? Lol. If you don't get how that analogy is a massive fail, then you aren't intelligent enough to answer the question.
Our writer's male spouse has no business touching or examining women's bodies. Men go on and on about hubba hubba this and attractive that.. and then expect us to pretend they never do that as soon as they slap on a white coat? Please. "Professional" men get arrested and convicted ALL the time for sexually assaulting women in medical settings. And some women get off on it too, and it makes them feel special. That doesn't make it right. It means the women were already traumatized.
I do my own medical care and send in my own pap smears. I do my own prenatal care...doing it again currently. My parter helps. We also do our births with no pro assistance and catches our babies. Plus he actually knows the maneuvers to deal with a breech birth. Therefore he's more of an OB than any employed at a hospital. This is appropriate as he does this work with only me. We could not be prouder of always doing it this way.:)
Should an emergency arise, I will never hire a male physician. Ever. They need to mind men's business and stop putting their eyes and hands where they don't belong. No exceptions. <3
Yuck. You have no place. Creepy.
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